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Librarian of Celaeno's avatar

When I teach about the 2008 Financial Crisis, my students generally wonder why the people running the banks, who were already wealthy enough to buy anything they could ever want, kept manipulating the economy to enrich themselves further until the whole thing crashed. I tell them that beyond a certain point it ceases to be about having money and become about having MORE money, which is a psychic need unconnected to actually material reality. For my part, I think you should be prouder of your work here than on Wall Street. After all, here you started at the same level as everyone else and earned every reader through hard work. That’s success by any measure.

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Laura and David, I am going to write one comment for both of you now that I have read both and watched the video. (I can't comment on Laura's article so will just write to both of you here.) First, thanks for this wonderful collaboration. I have been reading both of you for some time and enjoy the insights you provide. Second, this idea of success is one that has been rattling around in my mind lately, particularly how subjective it is.

Growing up poor I had this idea that success meant monetary wealth or at the very least, having "things." Nice house, nice clothes, nice job, nice wife, nice kids, etc... Quite naive in retrospect but for a young boy in rural America who was raised to believe in the pursuit of the American Dream, these seemed perfectly normal at that time.

In my career in the Navy over the course of 24 years I thought success meant getting good performance appraisals, getting promoted ahead of my peers, getting selected for premier positions of authority, etc...

It was quite the wakeup call to discover that my kids knew next to nothing about my work and would rather I have spent more time at home than off sailing the seas. Even though my version of success provided nicely for our family, that wasn't particularly relevant to my wife and children who would have preferred me to be with them.

One of the reasons I have not gone back to work since retiring from the Navy last year is the desire to force myself to slow down, an attempt to be present for my wife and children in a way I wasn't previously. I realized that it wouldn't matter so much how much money I made or what nice things we have if I didn't have a relationship with those I loved.

Even recently I have struggled to reign myself in here on Substack as it is so easy to compare ourselves to others. I started seeing some growth in subscribers (which is wonderful of course) and is certainly a measure of success in writing. However, at the same time I noticed less personal engagement and a sense I had to "perform" to a certain level to keep the growth going. Suddenly I was distracted again by my perfectionist, workaholic mindset, seeking a false idea of success.

These past few weeks I needed to sit myself down and give myself a stern talking to. So I appreciate the insights that you both provide here. There are many different ways to measure success but some are certainly going to have a much longer lasting impact than others.

Keep up the great writing, both of you. All the best, Matthew

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