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Lawrence Goldstone's avatar

Important to keep in mind that Veblen was writing in a period of enormous income inequality in which the general population had no recourse. In the Panic of 1907, Pierpont Morgan bailed out the United States as an individual. Income tax was still six years away. Hereditary aristocracies still ruled in virtually every country in Europe and the financial aristocracy ruled in the US. In other words, the wealthy had little or nothing to fear from ordinary people. That was soon to change. We underestimate the impact of World War I on the ruling class, as well as art and culture, but when it was done, previously powerless segments of society had become a force to deal with. (Russia scared the willies out of everyone else, but Italy, Germany, Austria, etc.--even the UK--had upheavals of their own.) These new power groups have grown in size and sophistication. As such, the willingness of the super rich to flaunt their wealth and thereby become targets has diminished. Some still do, but most, if their names get in the news at all--Harlan Crow, Richard Uihlein, for example--evoke a "Who's that?" I would postulate that within their circle, their consumption is every bit as conspicuous, but they make a much more concerted effort to keep a low profile with the general public.

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As always, I appreciate your reflections, David.

It all depends on the rich person in question, how they got their wealth, and how they behave. Living in Seattle, I dislike all the animosity towards Gates and Bezos - they at least built some incredible things, and people who take on risk to build a business should be compensated for that risk. Say what you will about Amazon, but e-commerce was coming for brick and mortar stores regardless and I’m glad it wasn’t the kids of Sam Walton to be the first mover because labor would be making $7.25 in those warehouses, Bezos was probably as good as it could get. Liked Musk when he kept his id in check - he builds worthwhile things too, but naming your kid Techno Mechanicus and calling him Tau instead of TexMex is frankly unforgivable lol - but he and Trump are poster children for why people need feedback and solid parenting. They are the Joffrey Baratheons of the modern world, which may be lost on you if you didn't watch Game of Thrones. Wealth in and of itself is a good, but wealth that gives one impunity corrupts both the character of the wealthy person from within and the world in which they operate. Also, inherited wealth is only a good up until a point.

A decent amount of class resentment comes from bare envy which is part of the human condition (I'm certainly guilty of it at times, and the remedy for that is gratitude which comes from character), but a decent amount comes from both seeing how so many of the have-nots literally have nothing, the contempt that the owners of businesses have for their workers and the constant demands to do more with less, the "creative destruction" that destroys the economic stability of those who get the short end of the stick, the widespread knowledge that the ultra-rich hide their money in offshore accounts and use legal gimmicks to get out of noblesse oblige, and of course the previously described examples of rich people behaving badly and getting away with it. The Trumps, Alex Jones, Musk, the Sacklers, who to me are one of the worst examples of this, at least those who had an active role in the business and knew what they were doing. White collar crime pays and people see it. No one went to prison and they had to pay a big fine but less than their profits, and they're still rich. Shoot, now Perdue (or its successor) sells fancy brand-name buprenorphine to treat the people whose addictions they sponsored, taking their cut from the public coming and going. But most wealthy aren't predatory, even though it seems the stock market rewards bad behavior more than good.

That is, a huge part of resentment of the wealthy comes not from the wealth but the system in which such wealth and inequality exists. Personally, I think billionaires should be taxed to the point they are no longer billionaires, but not in a spirit of vindictiveness. It's not about them specifically - building a business that employs others at living wages is a great thing to be commended. It's that the inequality itself is toxic, and it's not even a huge punishment to the titans of industry and tech, the money will flow upward to the top anyway, it's how the system works. I strongly feel that the only reason society tolerates billionaires is a failure to appreciate the difference between a million and a billion. On the flip side, I don't think corporations that have a majority of their payroll in the US should only pay taxes except for when they have a significant negative externality they cause. Because a huge part of backlash against the provision of a safety net comes from resentment at one's taxes going to "those people" considered undeserving or from a dislike of government in general, I'd rather just have a civic burning of the billion and first dollars + of any one person’s aggregate wealth each year on the Fourth of July as a patriotic duty and in exchange perhaps bring titles back (make Bezos the Duke of Amazon or something) or give recognition for that kind of sacrifice with, say, a seat in the state legislature or city council in which the business headquarters is so long as they live within its jurisdiction. Then the government should just print whatever money it needs to do the things it needs to do, like a significant UBI, Medicare for All, the military, public education, etc.

How such a process would be enforced I don't know - like how do you value a privately held Picasso? But the appeal of such a system would be that it could unite society in second-order effects. If I were a Bezos or a Musk with most of my billions in unrealized stock and faced the prospect of having that wealth erased on the Fourth of July, I would give away a lot of that stock (perhaps without voting rights) to Amazon employees and the governments and residents of Seattle and other places Amazon operated. If I were a Walton, I would give away a bunch of my Walmart stock to Walmart employees and the members of the communities in which Walmart operates, probably in the form of a retirement fund or with a long vesting period so that everyone wouldn't just quit. Being from Memphis and living in Seattle, I own a few shares each of FedEx, Amazon, Microsoft, and Boeing in my 401k - not enough to really reduce my diversification, but because I believe the incentives of a city's population should be aligned with the businesses that operate there. I love Memphis and Seattle and want them to succeed (along with the rest of the world, but I am partial), so it follows that I would want the businesses that employ the populations of said cities to succeed, assuming that they aren't sweatshops or AR-15 manufacturers.

It's utopian and likely requires people to be better than they actually are, and it's also a little bit of a digression for which I apologize. But what I like about that idea it creates the incentives for a form of capitalist socialism, a better mixed economy, without mandating it nor getting rid of the incentives to build a business, and it would actually make most of our rich heroes. What do you think?

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